?url_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.au=Swain%2C+Jon&rft.aufirst=Jon&rft.aulast=Swain&rft.issn=1609-4069&rft.date=1+January+2022&rft.volume=21&rft.title=International+Journal+of+Qualitative+Methods&rft.atitle=Using+Informal+Conversations+in+Qualitative+Research&rft.genre=article